What Side Are You On?

By Dean

 

Questions have come up in many discussions on both the left and right side of the blogosphere about whether or not U.S. soldiers will fire upon U.S. citizens if the country collapses and the Fed's order the military to take control.

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There are no simple or easy answers. Speculation abounds on both sides of the argument.

The U.S. military provides an oath sworn at the time of induction that all who join take. It states;

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

The essential element of the oath is that it is an oath to protect the Constitution. It is not an oath to protect the federal government or follow orders of the president or anyone else in authority if their actions violate the Constitution.

What is interesting here are the implications. The oath taker swears to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. Unsaid, though implied, is that if the federal government and/or the president become enemies of the Constitution through their actions, the oath taker is compelled to defend against them.

If the federal government becomes your enemy, you can count on being classified as an enemy to them. Reference the recent DHS document making anybody that disagrees with the government or the president, an extremist, especially you pesky right wingers. The DHS document can be read here at Snooper Report.

For instance if, some speculate when, martial law is declared, there will likely be a very thin line that both citizen and soldier alike will have to decide whether or not they will cross. The citizen will have to decide if he wants to subject himself to the will of the military...or not.

The soldier will have to make the same choice...

So it bears the question, if the country collapses into anarchy and chaos, what are you as a citizen or a soldier or a police officer prepared to do?

I believe some would turn their weapons on citizens. They will just follow orders without thinking. It has been done in the past. Citizens will likely turn their own weapons on the miltary if that happens. There are 80 million gun owners in America by conservative estimates. That number is probably much higher. The bloodshed would be appalling.

The military is only as strong as the chain of command that is based upon clear moral authority. An un-Constitutional act would likely result in that moral clarity dissolving and the authority of leadership being put in question.
Some will state, correctly so, that many un-Constitutional acts have already taken place by our government. One has merely to read headlines. Of course it helps to know exactly what is actually written in the Constitution. Too many of our fellow countrymen don't have a clue, including elected officials who, one would assume, supposedly know the Constitution.
Don't count on it.
Educate yourself about the Constitution. Read it and comprehend what is written there. It could mean the difference between making an informed decision and one that is merely reactionary.

With the dissolving of moral clarity and authority, many in the military will question orders and missions. They may be faced with life or death decisions. These men and women are possessed with an above average dedication and loyalty to this nation. That alone will make some pause to consider orders to shoot American citizens, if it ever comes to that.

The oath they swore was to defend the Constitution and it's people. NOT to defend the government or elected officials if they make themselves an enemy of the Constitution and we the people.

The military will certainly take two actions if a worst case scenario ensues:

1. Protect strategic weapons and delivery systems from all incursions. There will be no questions asked, and no allegiances will be tolerated except to the Constitution. 

2. The world and the enemies outside our borders will be put on notice that any attempt by them to interfere with our internal fight will be met with severe consequences, up to and including the use of nuclear weapons.

On the one hand it is encouraging to know that U.S. soldiers take their oath of service very seriously and that they would likely question orders to suppress or fire upon U.S. citizens.
On the other hand, the fact that an organization like Oath Keepers was seen as necessary is frightening to many.

Visit Oath Keepers

"This is a Constitutional Republic, with the whole point being to secure and protect the pre-existing, unalienable rights of people. Those rights can be abused and violated by the one, the few, or the many and so a Constitutional Republic strives to shield those rights against all arbitrary power, including the power of the majority.
This is not rule by the majority, but rule by law, with the supreme law being a Constitution that intentionally divides and limits power, with a Bill of Rights added as an additional shield to protect you against the will of the majority or the will of powerful politicians." ~Stewart Rhodes--Oath Keepers~

We know that several thousand U.S troops have been actively training for urban warfare within our borders. Many see that as a sign of what may be in our future. Is it?

Whose version of the Constitution of the United States will you abide by?
Statist will tell you that the Constituion must be constantly re-interpreted to comply with ever evolving societal changes. Bravo Sierra.
The Constituion was written in plain english for the common man and does not need interpretation. Argue about it all you like, I could give a damn.

The oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, was valid when it was given to me so many years ago. It is still. Count on it.

What will you do?

US Gun Owners To Face Extradition And Foreign Prosecution: Obama Wants International Control Of Gun Ownership

H/T Pat Dollard.

The 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution states;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The U.S. Constitution and 44 States have Constitutional provisions enumerating the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

A reference source for those interested in the right of ordinary people to keep and bear arms;
SecondAmendment.net

“The Declaration Of Independence Has Been Effectively Repealed” - With Video

H/T Pat Dollard.

I wrote the following, and included the supporting video, on the first day of Obama’s “Whistle Stop to Lincoln-Style War Powers Tour” in Philadelphia. Today, Dick Morris released a video with a terrible, literal, connectivity:

Obama Attacks Founding Documents As Insufficient, In Need Of Change, Sets Stage For Revolution

This is from his speech in Philadelphia this morning. Where better to announce the founding of a new nation shaped in his image? And where else, more mocking, more audacious? And where else better to fool people, as a patriot?

Obama:

“It was these ideals that led us to declare independence, and craft our constitution, producing documents that were imperfect but had within them, like our nation itself, the capacity to be made more perfect."

"We are here today not simply to pay tribute to our first patriots but to take up the work that they began.
And yet while our problems may be new, what is required to overcome them is not. What is required is the same perseverance and idealism that our founders displayed. What is required is a new declaration of independence not just in our nation, but in our own lives..independence from ideology…"

"We should not forget we are the heirs of those who declared independence…and who somehow believed that they had the power to make the world anew, that’s the spirit we must reclaim …for the American Revolution did not end when the British guns fell silent…it was never something to be ended on a battlefield, or fulfilled in our founding documents…the American Revolution was and remains an ongoing struggle in the minds and hearts of the people…so starting now, let’s take up in our own lives, the work of perfecting our Union. Let’s build a government…let all of us do our part to rebuild this country , let’s make sure this election is not the end of what we do to change America, but just the beginning.”

Later in another city, he made reference to the need for our Constitution to be rewritten as “more perfect”.

Who gets to define that? And why is that definition expected to be better than the definition left us by the Founding Fathers?

There is no such thing as a person free of ideology. An ideology is simply one’s set of beliefs, however cohesive or disparate. Clearly what you are saying is that you want everyone to abandon their current ideology and adopt a new one. What is that ideology?

Let’s build a government? We don’t have one, or you simply want a new one? What type of government would that be?

Rebuild the country? Are there plans to tear it down? Because it hasn’t been torn down, yet. What foreknowledge do you have of it being torn down, and what exactly do you then want to rebuild it into?

The beginning of changing America? Into what?

Developing…

Now Dick Morris has this to say:



From Dick Morris.com:

“Each day’s news brings another bold and far-reaching proposal to change the fundamentals of the US economy. And each time he indulges his personal ideology with such a pronouncement, businesses all over the world cut back on their planned investment until the dust settles."

"Obama announced that he’d seek to regulate nonbank institutions, including those he deems to be “too big to fail” lest their collapse injure the economy. Which businesses will be included? Nobody knows."

"We may not know even when the law is passed. As companies grow or merge or acquire one another, they may step over the invisible line and become “too big,” and thus subject to Obama’s regulation.”

- Dick Morris. Read the whole piece.

Taking the Law to the Lawless

By Mark L Harvey

Seeing that the anti-Americanists have managed to subvert the judiciary in this nation to the extent that more unconstitutional laws have been passed than constitutional ones, I was wondering if we could use the courts to reverse that trend. One never knows.

So, I went to my attorney that I have used for years for many things and made an appointment for one of those 30-minute free consultations. I presented my idea/desire to my attorney and that 30-minute free consultation lasted more than two hours.

At issue was the viability of a lawsuit against congress for violating the constitution.

I was asked what I would settle for, how much money I was looking for, what kind of damages was I wanting to be compensated for, etc.

I told them that I was not seeking damages in a monetary settlement. I was demanding that either the United States federal government either return to our Constitutional Republic or make the changes they wanted to make by constitutional amendments instead of passing federal laws which made the path clear for legislating around the constitution.

Like I said, over two hours later, I witnessed six lawyers getting on board with the idea. I have no idea where this is going to go but I guess that as long as I pay their fees, they will take this as far as they are able.

What I am looking for is this: 30,000,000 Americans making appointments with their attorneys via the 30-minute free consultations to begin making waves through the legal system. Can you imagine what noise that would make if all of a sudden, our unconstitutional congress critters were getting hit with law suit after law suit demanding they perform their constitutional duties?

I have a recent list of the targets located in this article: Unconstitutional House Members

There are some Senators as well but I haven’t compiled that list yet.

Remember, if you go with this idea, go to your attorneys as if you are the one making this inquiry and don’t tell them others are doing this as well. Let them talk amongst themselves and let them “discover” the Tsunami rising. Also, go armed. If you don’t know the violations against the constitution, you won’t go anywhere with this. I was able to show them the blatant and outright fraudulent behavior of the current and past sessions of congress.

We read the constitution and tried to reconcile the “will of the congress will be done” and the “will of the congress has been heard” and the “the Senate will have final say over states rights” and the “federal statutes trump states rights” garbage. I also brought to their attention where several judges told American citizens that they had no standing in questioning anything the government does. I lit a fire under four of them. Two remain skeptical. But that’s OK.

The man that owns the firm has called me twice since I was there and I may have an appointment with other attorneys from partnered firms. It was even suggested that this could very well turn into a national class-action suit. We’ll see.

So, please make your appointments and go for broke. What do we have to lose? The more important question is this…what do we have to gain? Our country? Our Heritage?