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Sunday, April 13, 2008

Continuation of "Moderate Muslims"

From Ben.

Moderation in abundance among Muslims
Saturday, 12 April, 2008 @ 4:26 PM

The editorial claims to be based on a Gallup poll, which it neither links to nor clearly identifies. It mentions a book co-authored by John L. Esposito and Dalia Mogahed. [Who Speaks for Islam? What a Billion Muslims Really Think] Those writers have a promo piece in the April 2 L.A. Times, which also fails to explicitly identify or link to the poll. Do you care to hazard a guess as to who published their hagiography? No, I won't tell you, its too obvious.

Gallup does not offer the internal data--the questions asked and actual responses. Without that data we can not evaluate the poll. A similar World Opinion poll is more complete, I invite you to explore it.

And now, at long last, the first jewel of unwisdom:

After the spectacular assassination of Marxism and disintegration of Soviet Union, the West found itself a new enemy in Islam.

The author assumes that we are entirely ignorant of history: the Barbary Pirates! America was attacked by Islam and paid Jizya long before the Soviet Union threatened us. Islam is an old enemy!

And the results have also given birth to a book called, Who Speaks for Islam? What a billion Muslims really think by John L. Esposito and Dalia Mogahed.

How big was that sample? Over a six year term, while opinions are dynamic, not static and may be volatile? Of course the survey had to ignore kitman and al-taqeyya.

For instance, the fact that it's not Islamic teachings that drive some individuals to violence but historical injustices inflicted and perpetuated by some Western powers.

Fight them until... [8:390
Fight those who... until...[9:29]
"I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' [Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387]
The Caliph makes war upon Jews and Christians...[Reliance of the Traveller O-9.8]
The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim [O-9.9]

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War ]

Many concerned commentators including this humble hack have repeatedly argued that what is fueling the so-called clash of civilizations is not some absurd hatred of the Christian West sanctioned by Islam but Western ignorance about Muslims. The poll backs this argument.

Evidently the humble hack neglected to read the Qur'an & Hadith. Use the links I provided above. Read all of Surahs 8,9,47 & 48. What did Allah command? Read Surahs 33 & 59. What did Allah do? Read Bukhari's books 52, 53 & 59. What did Muhammad do? Do the commands and the actions form a congruent pattern?

There are other findings that are equally interesting. Contrary to common perceptions in the West, the majority of respondents think men and women have equal rights.

Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the ...[YAQB got Hilali & Khan wrong. Read the other translations to see the truth about this ayeh.,]
...beat them (lightly, if it is useful),...
Allâh commands you as regards your children's (inheritance); to the male, a portion equal to that of two females...
...And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her....

Whose word is uppermost in Islam; who rules? Can his word be changed?

What about the legendary Muslim sympathy for terrorism? While 6% of the Americans think attacks involving civilians are 'completely justified,' in Saudi Arabia, this figure is 4%. In Lebanon it's 2%.

What is the definition of innocent civilians? Does that definition include you? Because you have not read the Qur'an, you are unaware of Surah Al-Ma'idah 33. You have heard 5:32 quoted, but not its successor. Why is that?

5:33. The recompense of those who wage war against Allâh and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.
`Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways.

Note the highlighted phrases [bold red] in the ayeh and Ibn Kathir's Tafsir below it. Disbelief in Allah constitutes waging war against Islam, subjecting you to the listed hudud. Because you do not believe in Allah and submit, you are subject to having a hand & foot or your head amputated. You have not heard 5:33 quoted because of kitman. Muslims avoid revealing unpleasant truths about Moe's murder cult.

The majority of Muslims absolutely rejects violence and terrorism. In fact, many of the respondents quoted Quranic verses to point out that extremism goes against Islamic teachings.

It is impossible to reject violence & terrorism and remain a Muslim in good standing. Rejecting any part of the Qur'an is tantamount to apostasy [Reliance O-8.7.7]

O8.7: Acts that Entail Leaving Islam
-7- to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def:b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it;
What is the scholarly consensus? Read the samples at FOMI. Allah can not be in conflict with himself, so conflicting ayat are abrogated by those revealed more recently. Al-Anfal & Al-Taubah were among the last to be revealed, so they abrogate earlier ayat which conflict with them. The primary commands to commit violence, genocide & terrorism are found in those surahs. 8:12 mandates terrorism. 8:39 mandates perpetual war against pagans. 8:67 mandates genocide. 9:29 mandates perpetual war against Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians.

Those of you who may have knowledge of Muslim's outside our borders with a desire to read the truth but are blocked or without access please read the excerpt below from FFI.
Bypass any Ban : Faithfreedom.org is blocked in many Islamic countries. You can bypass any ban with a software created to help people in communist and Islamic countries to have access to free thought. You can download the software for free from their site tor.eff.org If that site is also blocked send an email to sendtor (at) gmail.com and an automatic responder will send you the software.

Pray for their deliverance.